6 comments on “Lovedean Housing Exhibition

  1. Yes, we’ll be there in force. if not with an open mind. It may be a complete waste of time as by recent experience, once EHDC sees an opportunity to get 80 more council taxes in perpetuity, as far away from Penns Place as possible, it’ll get approval. Any objection on the grounds of flooding, for example, will be countered by, “Oh, that’s just an engineering problem, easily solved with a ten foot culvert which will alleviate any existing flooding issue”
    Face it; Lovedean and Clanfield have been targeted.

    • I do not sensor or block comments but this makes it important to address some of the issues they raise as when they are in the public domain the comment needs to be balanced with fact.

      1) EHDC have no control over the amount of housing in Penns Place, Petersfield, or indeed, The South Downs National Park. This is controlled by the SDNP who have a very clear mission to prevent housing in the park wherever possible. This does not sit well with the officers or Councillors at EHDC who have pushed against this. So, to be clear, this is not an opportunity for EHDC to put housing into any other area to protect Petersfield, and none of the Councillors South of Butser support the notion we need to take the majority of the housing across the district.

      2) It is not just Clanfield or Lovedean that will be taking the brunt of housing south of the National Park, all villages will be affected including Horndean and Rowlands Castle. There are some 3,000 homes that need to be built South of Butser (in all 3 Parishes) between now and 2018 to meet our own needs. This is because people are living longer, familes have more than 2 children, and because there are far more households with just single parents. All three mean more housing is needed. None of these are the fault of any government, but responsible governance means we need to accept this and that they need to be planned for. If they were not then there would be very just criticism.

      3) If you go to a consultation without an open mind (your words, not mine) then you will probably come away as unhappy as you went and learned little. Try reading up on the NPPF (National Planning Policy Framework) and in particular the requirements for planning to be deemed suitable. This is for sustainable development which means encouraging economic growth while protecting the environment and improving our quality of life – all without affecting the ability of future generations to do the same. It is also worth looking at why planning applications get rejected and see if similar reasons can be applied on developments that threaten the area you live in. Flooding can be a valid reason, but if the storm water on development land can be put into soakaways so that it does not add to the current infrastructure then this is probably an engineered solution. Lets be honest – I suspect the main issue is NIMBYISM, and I have every sympathy with that, and would be equally angry about development on my front door step, the constantly changing street scene of Lovedean and how it affects the area I live in. While the people of Lovedean (like everywhere else) are an expanding population and there are land owners in Lovedean who are looking to cash in on their land for profit then this will continue where planning law permits unless there is a better solution.

      4) The comment about approving planning to get 80 more council taxes is a little cheap. EHDC has tried hard to get the number of homes that must be built in the next 18 years to a minimum. The first set of proposals put forward by EHDC were rejected by the government inspector for having too little new housing, and he has pushed East Hants to increase this by some 3,000 homes across the District against the wishes of the planning officers and councillors at EHDC. The council has been driven by lowering the cost of operation to prevent increased Council Tax costs, so any income is not a driving factor.

      The reality of planning South of Butser at this time is that every part of the community is at risk of taking on housing it does now wish to see, but is needed to meet our own needs, and that of the South Downs National Park which will not take its own share. We need to accept this and work hard to identify areas where this may be more suitable (the least unacceptable location) and make sure we get the facilities with it we deserve for our communities.

  2. Another belt of ‘affordable housing’ which will no doubt be as in keeping with the local housing stock as the ice-cream tub eye-sores on Hambledon Road (ugly Plant Farm sprawl). Surely this development is enough for the area. Oh, I forgot, this is to rehouse the Portsmouth residents of Somers town for the regeneration of that area.

    Wonder how long it will be before Lovedean has it’s own Wecock Farm. History repeating itself?

    • Good morning Sonia,

      Ok, I’m going to try to pick through the bits of carrot to help with some of the points there.

      “Another belt of affordable housing”. Not quite right. EHDC policy is for 40% of homes to be affordable housing. This is to make sure that we provide a sustainable mix of house types for the community.

      “Ice Cream Tub Eye Sores”. Did you visit the consultation, see the designs and give some feedback? if you did and you did not like them, and comment, then that helps to pressure the developer to make changes. If you did not then your views wont have been taken on board by the people who can help to make a difference. East Hants planners and the District Councillors work very hard to make sure that where development takes place it is high quality.

      “Surely this development is enough for the area” Lets be very honest here. The majority of the residents in the Parish of Horndean moved here to enjoy open fields, countryside walks and great views. none of us bought properties here to live in a busy built up and cosmopolitan area. That housing is being built around us steadily eroding the views and adding to road traffic etc is not what we want. However, while we live longer, have more than 2 children per house on average, and there are fewer people per household with single parents then we need much more housing for our own needs. Horndean has some 5,200 homes and between the 2001, 2011 census only 200 homes were built, just 20 per year. In reality we have got off lightly. With a growing population we need to allow more housing, and when land owners are ready to cash in, stopping development is very difficult.

      “This is to rehouse the residents of Somers Town” Totally incorrect and a good reason why comments need to be approved, so when they are posted inaccuracies like this can be addressed. Somers Town is in Portsmouth City Council’s area. They need to manage their own social housing stock as does Havant Borough Council next to us. Any Social Housing in our villages is protected with a rule that it must first be offered to families in the village, or people who work there. If there is no uptake then they are then offered to families in nearby villages in East Hants.

      “How long before Lovedean has its own Wecock Farm” A little bit Hysterical, but the answer is that it never will. Weycock Farm is very densely developed and with a high proportion of Social Housing, two key issues that will not happen in East Hants because our housing needs are different, and Social Housing is also designed in differently now. I think you are also reading ‘Affordable Housing’ and taking this as ‘Social Housing’. The two are very different. In East Hants, and the parish of Horndean in particular, we need homes for the elderly to down size into, and first time buyer property for young families to stay in their communities. Delivering the right type of affordable housing to make sure that we cater for the needs of our own families, but not solving adjacent authorities problems is key to East Hants. Shared Ownership is a good way to help first time buyers to stay in the community and to get on the property ladder. There is also a development in Blendworth which is being put forward with accommodation for injured servicemen, so there are a number of ways that Affordable Housing can be met.

      From a personal view, I would much rather that there is minimal development in our community as we all value the views, open spaces and do not wish to see more traffic on our roads than we already have. Unfortunately, we are a growing community and the number 2 complaint about housing I hear is that the local house price is far too high for children to move out and buy in the local area. We need to make sure that we provide affordable housing for this to happen. (The number 1 complaint is obviously against building in general).

    • When comments are made to the blog they have to be approved. If not then adverts for Viagra, web hosting and sex toys would automatically get blogged. We dont want that to happen. When a visitor leaves a message the next screen advises that the message will be posted when it has been moderated. Messages selling 2 foot dildo’s are deleted, and 100% of all other messages get posted in their full format. Nothing is censored. Simple messages can be approved by smart phone, but messages with serious factual inaccuracies or issues that need a reply get posted with the reply so the two are read together. As this is a self funded personal hobby and not a work activity this may take 24 or 48 hours to do this when I am next at a computer.

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